I’ve been thinking about this video lately, which is really quite excellent, and it struck me that the two economist-rappers are essentially not arguing at all – they’re simply talking past one another.
Keynes is talking specifically about what to do in an economic recession. Hayek is talking much more broadly about the economy itself. Keynes isn’t really arguing for central planning so much as he’s advocating an increase public spending to make up for the downturn in private spending. Hayek, on the other hand, is describing why central planners inevitably fail, and that government policies aimed at hitting full employment, for instance, might have unintended consequences.
These don’t strike me as exactly competing narratives so much as different narratives. Hayek doesn’t really answer the question about what he’d do to get out of the recession, he just moves back to the broader subject of the economy. And while I think the Hayekian take on the broader economy is correct, I’m left feeling short-changed on any ideas Hayek may have to actually spark recovery.
I’m very far from being an expert, but isn’t Hayek’s position (at least as summarized in the video) that recessions are part of the natural cycle and shouldn’t be mucked with at all (since we’re more likely to just make things worse)?
Yes, this is the Hayekian position here. The notion that government can substantively correct the boom-bust cycle is specific to Keynes, and Hayek is arguing that it doesn’t work that way.
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